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Qwen3 VL CoreML
Looking for help with or to help with, due to the pending document enhancement, the Vibe Coders edition of cml editor. Also for more information on how to use the .mlkey whether or not my model is suppose to say IOs18 when I am planning to use it on Mac Apple Intelligence seems to think coreML is for iOS but are the capabilities extended when running NPU on the book? How to use this graph. coming in hot sorry. btw. there are 100s of feedback and crash reports sent in form me for additional info? I attached a image that might help with updating Tags
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Unable to load a quantized Qwen 1.7B model on an iPhone SE 3
I am trying to benchmark and see if the Qwen3 1.7B model can run in an iPhone SE 3 [4 GB RAM]. My core problem is - Even with weight quantization the SE 3 is not able to load into memory. What I've tried: I am converting a Torch model to the Core ML format using coremltools. I have tried the following combinations of quantization and context length 8 bit + 1024 8 bit + 2048 4 bit + 1024 4 bit + 2048 All the above quantizations are done with dynamic shape with the default being [1,1] in the hope that the whole context length does not get allocated in memory The 4-bit model is approximately 865MB on disk The 8-bit model is approximately 1.7 GB on disk During load: With the int4 quantization the memory spikes during intitial load a lot. Could this be because many operations are converted to int8 or fp16 as core ML does not perform operations natively on int4? With int8 on the profiler the memory does not go above 2 GB (only 900 MB) but it is still not able to load as it shows the following error. 2GB is the limit where jetsam kills the app for the iPhone SE 3 E5RT: Error(s) occurred compiling MIL to BNNS graph: [CreateBnnsGraphProgramFromMIL]: BNNS Graph Compile: failed to preallocate file with error: No space left on device for path: /var/mobile/Containers/Data/Application/ 5B8BB7D2-06A6-4BAE-A042-407B6D805E7C/Library/Caches /com.tss.qwen3-coreml/ com.apple.e5rt.e5bundlecache/ 23A341/<long key>.tmp.12586_4362093968.bundle/ H14.bundle/main/main_bnns/bnns_program.bnnsir Some online sources have suggested activation quantization but I am unsure if that will have any impact on loading [as the spike is during load and not inference] The model spec also suggests that there is no dequantization happening (for e.g from 4 bit -> fp16) So I had couple of queries: Has anyone faced similar issues? What could be the reasons for the temporary memory spike during LOAD What are approaches that can be adopted to deal with this issue? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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MLX/Ollama Benchmarking Suite - Open Source and Free
Hi all, I spent the last few months developing an MLX/Ollama local AI Benchmarking suite for Apple Silicon, written in pure Swift and signed with an Apple Developer Certificate, open source, GPL, and free. I would love some feedback to continue development. It is the only benchmarking suite I know of that supports live power metrics and MLX natively, as well as quick exports for benchmark results, and an arena mode, Model A vs B with history. I really want this project to succeed, and have widespread use, so getting 75 stars on the github repo makes it eligible for Homebrew/Cask distribution. Github Repo
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Is it possible to instantiate MLModel strictly from memory (Data) to support custom encryption?
We are trying to implement a custom encryption scheme for our Core ML models. Our goal is to bundle encrypted models, decrypt them into memory at runtime, and instantiate the MLModel without the unencrypted model file ever touching the disk. We have looked into the native apple encryption described here https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreml/encrypting-a-model-in-your-app but it has limitations like not working on intel macs, without SIP, and doesn’t work loading from dylib. It seems like most of the Core ML APIs require a file path, there is MLModelAsset APIs but I think they just write a modelc back to disk when compiling but can’t find any information confirming that (also concerned that this seems to be an older API, and means we need to compile at runtime). I am aware that the native encryption will be much more secure but would like not to have the models in readable text on disk. Does anyone know if this is possible or any alternatives to try to obfuscate the Core ML models, thanks
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CoreML GPU NaN bug with fused QKV attention on macOS Tahoe
Problem: CoreML produces NaN on GPU (works fine on CPU) when running transformer attention with fused QKV projection on macOS 26.2. Root cause: The common::fuse_transpose_matmul optimization pass triggers a Metal kernel bug when sliced tensors feed into matmul(transpose_y=True). Workaround: pipeline = ct.PassPipeline.DEFAULT pipeline.remove_passes(['common::fuse_transpose_matmul']) mlmodel = ct.convert(model, ..., pass_pipeline=pipeline) Minimal repro: https://github.com/imperatormk/coreml-birefnet/blob/main/apple_bug_repro.py Affected: Any ViT/Swin/transformer with fused QKV attention (BiRefNet, etc.) Has anyone else hit this? Filed FB report too.
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Core ML model decryption on Intel chips
About the Core ML model encryption mention in:https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreml/encrypting-a-model-in-your-app When I encrypted the model, if the machine is M chip, the model will load perfectly. One the other hand, when I test the executable on an Intel chip macbook, there will be an error: Error Domain=com.apple.CoreML Code=9 "Operation not supported on this platform." UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=Operation not supported on this platform.} Intel test machine is 2019 macbook air with CPU: Intel i5-8210Y, OS: 14.7.6 23H626, With Apple T2 Security Chip. The encrypted model do load on M2 and M4 macbook air. If the model is NOT encrypted, it will also load on the Intel test machine. I did not find in Core ML document that suggest if the encryption/decryption support Intel chips. May I check if the decryption indeed does NOT support Intel chip?
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ML contraints & Timeout clarificaitions for Message Filtering Extension
Hello everyone, I’m currently working with the Message Filtering Extension and would really appreciate some clarification around its performance and operational constraints. While the extension is extremely powerful and useful, I’ve found that some important details are either unclear or not well covered in the available documentation. There are two main areas I’m trying to understand better: Machine learning model constraints within the extension In our case, we already have an existing ML model that classifies messages (and are not dependant on Apple's built-in models). We’re evaluating whether and how it can be used inside the extension. Specifically, I’m trying to understand: Are there documented limits on the size of an ML model (e.g., maximum bundle size or model file size in MB)? What are the memory constraints for a model once loaded into memory by the extension? Under what conditions would the system terminate or “kick out” the extension due to memory or performance pressure? Message processing timeouts and execution constraints What is the timeout for processing a single received message? At what point will the OS stop waiting for the extension’s response and allow the message by default (for example, if the extension does not respond in time)? Any guidance, official references, or practical experience from Apple engineers or other developers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help,
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Jan ’26
CoreML regression between macOS 26.0.1 and macOS 26.1 Beta causing scrambled tensor outputs
We’ve encountered what appears to be a CoreML regression between macOS 26.0.1 and macOS 26.1 Beta. In macOS 26.0.1, CoreML models run and produce correct results. However, in macOS 26.1 Beta, the same models produce scrambled or corrupted outputs, suggesting that tensor memory is being read or written incorrectly. The behavior is consistent with a low-level stride or pointer arithmetic issue — for example, using 16-bit strides on 32-bit data or other mismatches in tensor layout handling. Reproduction Install ON1 Photo RAW 2026 or ON1 Resize 2026 on macOS 26.0.1. Use the newest Highest Quality resize model, which is Stable Diffusion–based and runs through CoreML. Observe correct, high-quality results. Upgrade to macOS 26.1 Beta and run the same operation again. The output becomes visually scrambled or corrupted. We are also seeing similar issues with another Stable Diffusion UNet model that previously worked correctly on macOS 26.0.1. This suggests the regression may affect multiple diffusion-style architectures, likely due to a change in CoreML’s tensor stride, layout computation, or memory alignment between these versions. Notes The affected models are exported using standard CoreML conversion pipelines. No custom operators or third-party CoreML runtime layers are used. The issue reproduces consistently across multiple machines. It would be helpful to know if there were changes to CoreML’s tensor layout, precision handling, or MLCompute backend between macOS 26.0.1 and 26.1 Beta, or if this is a known regression in the current beta.
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Jan ’26
Image object detection with video sizing issue
I'm working on my first model that detects bowling score screens, and I have it working with pictures no problem. But when it comes to video, I have a sizing issue. I added my model to a small app I wrote for taking a picture of a Bowling Scoring Screen, where my model will frame the screens in the video feed from the camera. My model works, but my boxes are about 2/3 the size of the screens being detected. I don't understand the theory of the video stream the camera is feeding me. What I mean is that I don't want to make tweaks to the size of my rectangles by making them larger, and I'm not sure if the video feed is larger than what I'm detecting in code. Questions I have are like is the video feed a certain resolution like 1980x something, or a much higher resolution in the 12 megapixel range? On a static image of say 1920x something, My alignment is perfect. AI says that it's my model training, that I'm training on square images but video is 16:9. Or that I'm producing 4:3 images in a 16:9 environment. I'm missing something here but not sure what it is. I already wrote code to force it to fit, but reverted back to trying for a natural fit.
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Jan ’26
Pre-inference AI Safety Governor for FoundationModels (Swift, On-Device)
Greetings, and Happy Holidays, I've been building an on-device AI safety layer called Newton Engine, designed to validate prompts before they reach FoundationModels (or any LLM). Wanted to share v1.3 and get feedback from the community. The Problem Current AI safety is post-training — baked into the model, probabilistic, not auditable. When Apple Intelligence ships with FoundationModels, developers will need a way to catch unsafe prompts before inference, with deterministic results they can log and explain. What Newton Does Newton validates every prompt pre-inference and returns: Phase (0/1/7/8/9) Shape classification Confidence score Full audit trace If validation fails, generation is blocked. If it passes (Phase 9), the prompt proceeds to the model. v1.3 Detection Categories (14 total) Jailbreak / prompt injection Corrosive self-negation ("I hate myself") Hedged corrosive ("Not saying I'm worthless, but...") Emotional dependency ("You're the only one who understands") Third-person manipulation ("If you refuse, you're proving nobody cares") Logical contradictions ("Prove truth doesn't exist") Self-referential paradox ("Prove that proof is impossible") Semantic inversion ("Explain how truth can be false") Definitional impossibility ("Square circle") Delegated agency ("Decide for me") Hallucination-risk prompts ("Cite the 2025 CDC report") Unbounded recursion ("Repeat forever") Conditional unbounded ("Until you can't") Nonsense / low semantic density Test Results 94.3% catch rate on 35 adversarial test cases (33/35 passed). Architecture User Input ↓ [ Newton ] → Validates prompt, assigns Phase ↓ Phase 9? → [ FoundationModels ] → Response Phase 1/7/8? → Blocked with explanation Key Properties Deterministic (same input → same output) Fully auditable (ValidationTrace on every prompt) On-device (no network required) Native Swift / SwiftUI String Catalog localization (EN/ES/FR) FoundationModels-ready (#if canImport) Code Sample — Validation let governor = NewtonGovernor() let result = governor.validate(prompt: userInput) if result.permitted { // Proceed to FoundationModels let session = LanguageModelSession() let response = try await session.respond(to: userInput) } else { // Handle block print("Blocked: Phase \(result.phase.rawValue) — \(result.reasoning)") print(result.trace.summary) // Full audit trace } Questions for the Community Anyone else building pre-inference validation for FoundationModels? Thoughts on the Phase system (0/1/7/8/9) vs. simple pass/fail? Interest in Shape Theory classification for prompt complexity? Best practices for integrating with LanguageModelSession? Links GitHub: https://github.com/jaredlewiswechs/ada-newton Technical overview: parcri.net Happy to share more implementation details. Looking for feedback, collaborators, and anyone else thinking about deterministic AI safety on-device. parcri.net has the link :)
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Dec ’25
SoundAnalysis built-in classifier fails in background (SNErrorCode.operationFailed)
I’m seeing consistent failures using SoundAnalysis live classification when my app moves to the background. Setup iOS 17.x AVAudioEngine mic capture SNAudioStreamAnalyzer SNClassifySoundRequest(classifierIdentifier: .version1) UIBackgroundModes = audio AVAudioSession .record / .playAndRecord, active Audio capture + level metering continue working in background (mic indicator stays on) Issue As soon as the app enters background / screen locks: SoundAnalysis starts failing every second with domain:com.apple.SoundAnalysis, code:2(SNErrorCode.operationFailed) Audio capture itself continues normally When the app returns to foreground, classification immediately resumes without restarting the engine/analyzer Question Is live background sound classification with the built-in SoundAnalysis classifier officially unsupported or known to fail in background? If so, is a custom Core ML model the only supported approach for background detection? Or is there a required configuration I’m missing to keep SNClassifySoundRequest(.version1) running in background? Thanks for any clarification.
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Dec ’25
CoreML Unified Memory failure/silent exit on long video tasks (M1 Mac 32GB)
Hi Apple Engineers, I am experiencing a potential memory management bug with CoreML on M1 Mac (32GB Unified Memory). When processing long video files (approx. 12,000 frames) using a CoreML execution provider, the system often completes the 'Analysing' phase but fails to transition into 'Processing'. It simply exits silently or hits an import error (scipy). However, if I split the same task into small 20-frame segments, it works perfectly at high speeds (~40 FPS). This suggests the hardware is capable, but there is an issue with memory fragmentation or resource cleanup during long-running CoreML sessions. Is there a way to force a VRAM/Unified Memory flush via CLI, or is this a known limitation for large frame indexing?
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Dec ’25
Using coremltools in a CI/CD pipeline
Hi everyone 👋 I'd like to use coremltools to see how well a model performs on a remote device as part of a CI/CD pipeline. According to the Core ML Tools "Debugging and Performance Utilities" guide, remote devices must be in a "connected" state in order for coremltools to install the ModelRunner application. The devices in our system have a "paired" state, and I'm unable to set the them as "connected." The only way I know how to connect a device is to physically plug it in to a computer and open Xcode. I don't have physical access to the devices in the CI/CD system, and the host computer that interacts with them doesn't have Xcode installed. Here are some questions I've been looking into and would love some help answering: Has anyone managed to use the coremltools performance utilities in a similar system? Can you put a device in a "connected" state if you don't have physical access to the device and if you only have access to Xcode command line tools and not the Xcode app? Is it at all possible to install the coremltools ModelRunner application on a "paired" device, for example, by manually building the app and installing it with devicectl? Would other utilities, such as the MLModelBenchmarker work as expected if the app is installed this way? Thank you!
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Dec ’25
ANE Error with Statefu Model: "Unable to compute prediction" when State Tensor width is not 32-aligned
Hi everyone, I believe I’ve encountered a potential bug or a hardware alignment limitation in the Core ML Framework / ANE Runtime specifically affecting the new Stateful API (introduced in iOS 18/macOS 15). The Issue: A Stateful mlprogram fails to run on the Apple Neural Engine (ANE) if the state tensor dimensions (specifically the width) are not a multiple of 32. The model works perfectly on CPU and GPU, but fails on ANE both during runtime and when generating a Performance Report in Xcode. Error Message in Xcode UI: "There was an error creating the performance report Unable to compute the prediction using ML Program. It can be an invalid input data or broken/unsupported model." Observations: Case A (Fails): State shape = (1, 3, 480, 270). Prediction fails on ANE. Case B (Success): State shape = (1, 3, 480, 256). Prediction succeeds on ANE. This suggests an internal memory alignment or tiling issue within the ANE driver when handling Stateful buffers that don't meet the 32-pixel/element alignment. Reproduction Code (PyTorch + coremltools): import torch.nn as nn import coremltools as ct import numpy as np class RNN_Stateful(nn.Module): def __init__(self, hidden_shape): super(RNN_Stateful, self).__init__() # Simple conv to update state self.conv1 = nn.Conv2d(3 + hidden_shape[1], hidden_shape[1], kernel_size=3, padding=1) self.conv2 = nn.Conv2d(hidden_shape[1], 3, kernel_size=3, padding=1) self.register_buffer("hidden_state", torch.ones(hidden_shape, dtype=torch.float16)) def forward(self, imgs): self.hidden_state = self.conv1(torch.cat((imgs, self.hidden_state), dim=1)) return self.conv2(self.hidden_state) # h=480, w=255 causes ANE failure. w=256 works. b, ch, h, w = 1, 3, 480, 255 model = RNN_Stateful((b, ch, h, w)).eval() traced_model = torch.jit.trace(model, torch.randn(b, 3, h, w)) mlmodel = ct.convert( traced_model, inputs=[ct.TensorType(name="input_image", shape=(b, 3, h, w), dtype=np.float16)], outputs=[ct.TensorType(name="output", dtype=np.float16)], states=[ct.StateType(wrapped_type=ct.TensorType(shape=(b, ch, h, w), dtype=np.float16), name="hidden_state")], minimum_deployment_target=ct.target.iOS18, convert_to="mlprogram" ) mlmodel.save("rnn_stateful.mlpackage") Steps to see the error: Open the generated .mlpackage in Xcode 16.0+. Go to the Performance tab and run a test on a device with ANE (e.g., iPhone 15/16 or M-series Mac). The report will fail to generate with the error mentioned above. Environment: OS: macOS 15.2 Xcode: 16.3 Hardware: M4 Has anyone else encountered this 32-pixel alignment requirement for StateType tensors on ANE? Is this a known hardware constraint or a bug in the Core ML runtime? Any insights or workarounds (other than manual padding) would be appreciated.
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Dec ’25
Core ML .mlpackage not found in bundle despite target membership and Copy Bundle Resources
Hi everyone, I’m working on an iOS app that uses a Core ML model to run live image recognition. I’ve run into a persistent issue with the mlpackage not being turned into a swift class. This following error is in the code, and in carDetection.mlpackage, it says that model class has not been generated yet. The error in the code is as follows: What I’ve tried: Verified Target Membership is checked for carDetectionModel.mlpackage Confirmed the file is listed under Copy Bundle Resources (and removed from Compile Sources) Cleaned the build folder (Shift + Cmd + K) and rebuilt Renamed and re-added the .mlpackage file Restarted Xcode and re-added the file Logged bundle contents at runtime, but the .mlpackage still doesn’t appear The mlpackage is in Copy bundle resources, and is not in the compile sources. I just don't know why a swift class is not being generated for the mlpackage. Could someone please give me some guidance on what to do to resolve this issue? Sorry if my error is a bit naive, I'm pretty new to iOS app development
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Dec ’25
Getting CoreML to run inference on already allocated gpu buffers
I am running some experiments with WebGPU using the wgpu crate in rust. I have some Buffers already allocated in the GPU. Is it possible to use those already existing buffers directly as inputs to a predict call in CoreML? I want to prevent gpu to cpu download time as much as possible. Or are there any other ways to do something like this. Is this only possible using the latest Tensor object which came out with Metal 4 ?
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Nov ’25
“Accelerate Transformer Training on Apple Devices from Months to Hours!”
I am excited to share that I have developed a Metal kernel for Flash Attention that eliminates race conditions and fully leverages Apple Silicon’s shared memory and registers. This kernel can dramatically accelerate training of transformer-based models. Early benchmarks suggest that models which previously required months to train could see reductions to just a few hours on Apple hardware, while maintaining numerical stability and accuracy. I plan to make the code publicly available to enable the broader community to benefit. I would be happy to keep you updated on the latest developments and improvements as I continue testing and optimizing the kernel. I believe this work could provide valuable insights for Apple’s machine learning research and products.
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Nov ’25
Hardware Support for Low Precision Data Types?
Hi all, I'm trying to find out if/when we can expect mxfp8/mxfp4 support on Apple Silicon. I've noticed that mlx now has casting data types, but all computation is still done in bf16. Would be great to reduce power consumption with support for these lower precision data types since edge inference is already typically done at a lower precision! Thanks in advance.
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Nov ’25